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4 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON
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HEATHER G.,
Case No. 3:25-cv-05817-TLF
7 Plaintiff,
v. ORDER REVERSING AND
8 REMANDING DEFENDANT’S
COMMISSIONER OF SOCIAL DECISION TO DENY BENEFITS
9 SECURITY,
10 Defendant.
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12 Plaintiff seeks judicial review under 42 U.S.C. § 405(g) of the Administrative Law
13 Judge’s (“ALJ”) decision affirming defendant’s denial of her application for benefits.
14 Dkts. 4, 17.
15 Plaintiff asserts two issues. First, she asserts a claim under the Administrative
16 Procedure Act (“APA”), arguing Social Security Ruling (“SSR”) 24-3p is contrary to law
17 and promulgated in excess of Agency authority. E.g., Dkt. 17 at 3. Second, she argues
18 the ALJ failed to properly evaluate the medical opinions of two state agency
19 consultants, Dr. Renee E. and Dr. Lisa H. E.g., Dkt. 17 at 14, 16.
20 The parties unanimously consent to the jurisdiction of a Magistrate Judge. Dkt. 2.
21 For the reasons below, the Court REVERSES and REMANDS the ALJ’s decision for
22 further administrative proceedings. The Court declines to address plaintiff’s challenge to
23 SSR 24-3p on jurisdictional grounds. Even so, the ALJ erred when evaluating the
24 medical opinions of Dr. Renee E. and Dr. Lisa H., necessitating a remand.
1 I. BACKGROUND
2 Plaintiff applied for disability benefits, ultimately asserting an amended onset
3 date of December 19, 2023. AR 56. Defendant denied plaintiff’s application initially and
4 on reconsideration. AR 97-98, 119-20. Plaintiff appealed to an ALJ who held a hearing
5 on April 17, 2025, and issued an unfavorable decision on April 24, 2025. AR 14, 52. The
6 Appeals Council then denied review on July 23, 2025. AR 1.
7 The ALJ resolved the required five-step analysis as follows.
8 For the first step, the ALJ found plaintiff had not engaged in substantial gainful
9 activity since December 19, 2023, the asserted amended onset date. AR 20.
10 For the second step, the ALJ found plaintiff had the following severe
11 impairments: “right shoulder arthritis status post surgery; asthma; obstructive sleep
12 apnea; obesity; migraines, a bipolar disorder; and anxiety. . .” AR 20.
13 For the third step, the ALJ found plaintiff did not have an impairment or
14 combination of impairments that met or medically equaled the severity of listed
15 impairments. AR 21.
16 For the fourth step, the ALJ formulated plaintiff’s RFC, finding in relevant part that
17 she “can carry out simple and detailed instructions that can be learned in 30 days or
18 less and can have occasional interaction with the general public, coworkers and
19 supervisors.” AR 24.
20 When formulating plaintiff’s RFC, the ALJ considered medical evidence, including
21 the opinions of two state agency consultants, Dr. Renee E. and Dr. Lisa H. AR 28-29.
22 As discussed below, both experts opined on plaintiff’s ability to follow instructions and
23 interact with others. The ALJ found these opinions were “generally persuasive because
24 they are mostly consistent with the record and supported by the evidence.” AR 29.
1 For the fifth step, while the ALJ found plaintiff was unable to perform any past
2 relevant work, she could still perform certain jobs that exist in significant numbers in the
3 national economy. AR 30-31.
4 II. DISCUSSION
5 A. SSR 24-3p
6 Plaintiff challenges SSR 24-3p as being contrary to law and promulgated in
7 excess of Agency authority. E.g., Dkt. 17 at 3. For the reasons below, the Court
8 declines to consider plaintiff’s challenge on jurisdictional grounds.
9 SSR 24-3p superseded SR 00-4p, primarily expanding the permissible sources a
10 vocational expert (“VE”) could use beyond the traditionally used Dictionary of
11 Occupational Titles. See Benjamin C. v. Bisignano, No. 1:25-cv-01341-RLH, 2026 WL
12 1682580, at *3 (C.D. Ill. Jun. 10, 2026), aff’d on reconsideration, 2026 WL 2111719 (Jul.
13 22, 2026).
14 Plaintiff however focuses on SSR 24-3p’s statement that “‘[a]t the hearing level,
15 when the claimant is represented, we expect the representative to raise any relevant
16 questions or challenges about the VE’s testimony at the time of the hearing . . .’” Dkt. 17
17 at 4 (quoting SSR 24-3p).
18 Plaintiff argues this language requires the claimant’s representative to raise
19 challenges to VE’s testimony at the ALJ’s hearing, or else the challenge is forfeited.
20 E.g., Dkt. 17 at 6. Plaintiff frames this requirement as a significant shift in Social
21 Security litigation, arguing a claimant’s representative could previously check a VE’s
22 testimony post-hearing and raise any challenges thereafter or on appeal. E.g., Dkt. 17
23 at 5, 11. Plaintiff concludes that as SSR 24-3p essentially creates a ‘whole new
24 framework,’ it is properly construed as a ‘substantive rule,’ and thus should have been
1 subject to the APA’s notice-and-comment requirements for new rules. E.g., Dkt. 17 at
2 11, 13-14. Conversely, plaintiff asserts defendant improperly construes SSR 24-3p as
3 merely explaining existing law as an ‘interpretive rule,’ which would be exempt from the
4 APA’s notice-and-comment requirements. E.g. Dkt. 17 at 7, 9, 11, 13.
5 As a preliminary note, it appears plaintiff’s counsel brought very similar
6 challenges to SSR 24-3p in at least two other District Courts. See, e.g., Benjamin C.,
7 2026 WL 1682580; see also Lisa W. v. Bisignano, No. 8:25-cv-02804-JMC, 2026 WL
8 2024675 (D. Md. Jul. 14, 2026).
9 Both challenges were unsuccessful. The Court in Benjamin C. refused to
10 consider a challenge to SSR 24-3p on jurisdictional grounds. The Benjamin C. Court
11 reasoned plaintiff failed to “anchor his challenge to the facts of this case,” and thus
12 failed Article III’s ‘case or controversy’ requirement, lacked standing, and failed the
13 APA’s ‘injury in fact’ requirement, among other reasons. 2026 WL 1682580, at *3-*5.
14 The Court in Lisa W. 2026 WL 2024675, at *5, adopted the reasoning from Benjamin C.
15 As pointed out by defendant, plaintiff’s opening brief presents no direct or
16 substantive challenge regarding the VE’s actual testimony, and instead focuses on the
17 ALJ’s evaluation of medical opinion evidence. E.g., Dkt. 17 at 14 (emphasis added)
18 (seeking “judicial input” on SSR 24-3p, and arguing it replacing SSR 00-4p “potentially
19 alter[ed]” the VE’s answers to the ALJ’s hypotheticals); Dkt. 21 at 7. The generalized
20 responses in plaintiff’s reply brief confirm her failure to connect her SSR 24-3p
21 challenge to the facts.1 See, e.g., Dkt. 22 at 2-4 (citing Dkt. 17 at 14) (asserting that the
22 “ALJ questioned the VE under SSR 24-3p” which “impact[ed] . . . the representative’s
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1 Regardless, claims asserted for the first time in a reply brief are improper. See Anderson v. Colvin, 223
24 F. Supp. 3d 1108, 1131 (D. Or. 2016).
1 ability to meaningfully engage in questioning the [VE]” and “will hinder any claimant.”).
2 Plaintiff’s arguments align considerably with those presented by her counsel and
3 rejected in Benjamin C., 2026 WL 1682580, and Lisa W., 2026 WL 2024675.
4 The Court agrees with the reasoning from Benjamin C. as the plaintiff here
5 similarly “makes no showing that the result would be any different if the Court orders the
6 ALJ to ignore SSR 24–3p on remand” as she “failed to demonstrate a causal connection
7 between the adoption of SSR 24–3p and the denial of [her] application.” 2026 WL
8 1682580, at *4-*5.
9 First, plaintiff fails to satisfy Article III’s case or controversy requirement. Judicial
10 power under Article III “depends on the existence of a case or controversy.” Preiser v.
11 Newkirk, 422 U.S. 395, 401 (1975). This Court’s judgments “must resolve ‘a real and
12 substantial controversy admitting of specific relief through a decree of a conclusive
13 character, as distinguished from an opinion advising what the law would be upon a
14 hypothetical state of facts.’” Id. (quoting North Carolina v. Rice, 404 U.S. 244, 246
15 (1971)). As described above, that is the sort of relief plaintiff seeks here. See Benjamin
16 C., 2026 WL 1682580, at *4.
17 Second, plaintiff lacks standing. To establish standing, plaintiff must show she (1)
18 “has suffered or likely will suffer an injury in fact,” (2) “the injury likely was caused or will
19 be caused by the defendant,” and (3) “the injury likely would be redressed by the
20 requested judicial relief.” Food & Drug Admin. v. All. For Hippocratic Med., 602 U.S.
21 367, 380 (2024). Plaintiff may meet the first requirement, as she arguably suffered a
22 generalized injury when defendant denied her application. Regardless, plaintiff still fails
23 to show a likelihood, as opposed to a speculative possibility, that her alleged injury from
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1 SSR 24-3p could be redressed by this Court. See Benjamin C., 2026 WL 1682580, at
2 *5.
3 And finally, the APA does not appear to authorize plaintiff’s challenge. The APA
4 authorizes suits by “[a] person suffering legal wrong because of agency action” or by a
5 person “adversely affected or aggrieved by agency action within the meaning of a
6 relevant statute.” 5 U.S.C. § 702. Stated otherwise, a litigant must show she “‘is injured
7 in fact by agency action’” and “cannot bring an APA claim unless and until she suffers
8 an injury.” Corner Post, Inc. v. Bd. of Governors of Fed. Rsrv. Sys., 603 U.S. 799, 807-
9 08 (2024) (quoting Dir., Off. of Workers’ Comp. Programs v. Newport News Shipbuilding
10 & Dry Dock Co., 514 U.S. 122, 127 (1995)). Again, plaintiff’s speculative and
11 generalized claim fails to show she suffered a specific injury in fact owing to SSR 24-3p,
12 and thus fails to meet this requirement.
13 Accordingly, the Court declines to consider plaintiff’s challenge to SSR 24-3p.
14 B. RFC
15 Plaintiff next argues “the ALJ wholly failed to provide any explanation as to why
16 he did not include the limitation to less than occasional contact with the public opined at
17 both the initial and reconsideration levels or the limitation to short and simple
18 instructions opined at the initial level.” Dkt. 17 at 15 (citing AR 24, 28-29).
19 Plaintiff refers to two state agency consultants, including Dr. Reene E. who
20 opined at the initial level, and Dr. Lisa H. who opined on reconsideration. Dkt. 17 at 16
21 (citing AR 99, 109, 121, 130).
22 The “ALJ is responsible for translating and incorporating clinical findings into a
23 succinct RFC.” Rounds v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec. Admin., 807 F.3d 996, 1006 (9th Cir.
24 2015). “In doing so, the ALJ need not adopt any opinion verbatim and may translate
1 clinical findings into work-related limitations.” Bryant L. v. Brisignano, No. 5:25-cv-
2 01671-SB-KES, 2026 WL 2201144, at *1 (C.D. Cal. Jul. 29, 2026) (citing Rounds, 807
3 F.3d at 1006).
4 An ALJ must base their RFC finding on “all of the relevant medical and other
5 evidence.” 20 C.F.R. § 404.1545(a)(3). “‘If the RFC assessment conflicts with an
6 opinion from a medical source, the adjudicator must explain why the opinion was not
7 adopted.’” John S. v. Saul, No. 5:19-cv-01561-MAA, 2020 WL 5880462, at *2 (C.D. Cal.
8 Oct. 2, 2020) (quoting SSR 96-8P). The “ALJ must provide enough reasoning to permit
9 meaningful review of whether the RFC and the evaluation of the medical evidence are
10 supported by substantial evidence.” Bryant L., 2026 WL 2201144, at *1 (citing Treichler
11 v. Commissioner of Soc. Sec. Admin., 775 F.3d 1090, 1103 (9th Cir. 2014)).
12 In August 2024, Dr. Reene E. provided two reports for plaintiff’s DI and DIB
13 claims at the initial level, but each appears largely identical concerning plaintiff’s ability
14 to follow instructions and interact with others. AR 99, 109.
15 Dr. Reene E. concluded plaintiff is “is capable of understanding carrying out and
16 remembering short, simple instructions on a regular basis in a competitive work
17 environment.” AR 102, 112. She found a moderate limitation for the “ability to carry out
18 detailed instructions” and no significant limitation for the ”ability to carry out very short
19 and simple instructions.” AR 106, 116.
20 Dr. Reene E. also concluded plaintiff “requires a work setting w/very little to no
21 public contact and occasional contact w/coworkers.” AR 102, 112. She found a
22 moderate limitation for both the ability to “[i]nteract with others” and to interact with the
23 “general public.” AR 103, 107, 113, 117. However, she found plaintiff was not
24 significantly limited in interactions with supervisors or coworkers/peers. AR 107, 117.
1 In sum, Dr. Renne E. found “Clmt is limited to SRT2 w/little to no public contact.”
2 AR 102, 112.
3 In October 2024, Dr. Lisa H. also provided two reports for plaintiff’s DI and DIB
4 claims at the reconsideration level. AR 121, 130. Dr. Lisa H. found plaintiff was “not
5 significantly limited” in her ability to “carry out detailed instructions.” AR 127, 136.
6 Otherwise, Dr. Lisa H’s assessed limitation ratings were the same as those provided by
7 Dr. Reene E. E.g., AR 127-28, 136-37 (finding also “Clmt requires a setting w/very little
8 to no public contact and occasional contact w/coworkers.”).
9 In considering Dr. Reene E. and Dr. Lisa H., the ALJ found “the State agency
10 mental consultants, initially and upon consideration, are generally persuasive because
11 they are mostly consistent with the record and supported by the evidence.” AR 28-29.
12 The ALJ, beyond recounting each expert’s findings, did not specifically elaborate on the
13 persuasiveness of either experts’ individual findings. AR 28-29.
14 The ALJ’s RFC determination then found in pertinent part that plaintiff “can carry
15 out simple and detailed instructions that can be learned in 30 days or less and plaintiff
16 can have occasional interaction with the general public, coworkers and supervisors.” AR
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18 Turning to the merits, the Court first considers the ALJ’s RFC finding that plaintiff
19 could perform “simple and detailed instructions . . .” AR 24. The ALJ failed to explain the
20 apparent decision to follow the opinion of Dr. Lisa H., who found plaintiff was not
21 significantly limited in carrying out detailed instructions (AR 127, 136), as opposed to Dr.
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2 This acronym appears to stand for “simple repetitive tasks.” See Sue L. v. Berryhill, No. 2:17-cv-04728-
24 KES, 2018 WL 3753002, at *4 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 6, 2018).
1 Reese E.’s opinion, who found plaintiff was moderately limited in the same category (AR
2 106, 116).
3 Defendant’s comparison to Stubbs-Danielson v. Astrue, 539 F.3d 1169, 1174
4 (9th Cir. 2008) is inapposite. Dkt. 21 at 17. Defendant presents Stubbs-Danielson as an
5 analogous example of an ALJ properly incorporating two “consistent” medical opinions
6 but “adopt[ing] the more succinct assessment prepared by the second doctor.” Dkt. 21
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8 In Stubbs-Danielson however, both expert opinions were consistent in that they
9 supported the plaintiff’s ability to perform only simple tasks. Stubbs-Danielson, 539 F.3d
10 at 1173-74. Here, both experts expressly distinguished “simple” versus “detailed”
11 instructions, and presented materially different opinions on plaintiff’s limitations when
12 performing detailed tasks. AR 102, 112, 127, 136; see also Meissl v. Barnhart, 403 F.
13 Supp. 2d 981, 984 (C.D. Cal. 2005) (distinguishing “short and simple instructions”
14 versus “detailed” instructions).
15 As for the ALJ’s RFC finding that plaintiff “can have occasional interaction with
16 the general public, coworkers and supervisors,” (AR 24) the ALJ failed to explain the
17 decision to omit both experts’ opinions that plaintiff requires ”very little to no” contact
18 with the public, versus “occasional” contact with her co-workers or supervisors. AR 102,
19 107, 112, 117, 128, 137.
20 Defendant argues the ALJ’s usage of “occasional” encompasses both experts’
21 opinions as to public and co-workers. Dkt. 21 at 17-18. It appears that “[g]enerally,
22 courts have concluded limiting a claimant to occasional social interactions adequately
23 encompasses moderate limitations with respect to social functioning.” Ishtarai P. v.
24 O’Malley, No. 5:23-cv-00640-MAA, 2024 WL 6895981, at *4 (C.D. Cal. Feb. 23, 2024)
1 (collecting cases). “And, at least in the context of physical exertion, both the Dictionary
2 of Occupational Titles and a Social Security Ruling have defined ‘occasionally’ to mean
3 ‘from very little up to one-third of the time.’” Leach v. Kijakazi, 70 F.4th 1251, 1258 (9th
4 Cir. Jun. 15, 2023) (quoting SSR 96-9p, 1996 WL 374185, at *8 (July 2, 1996)).
5 However, the term “occasional” is not a term with a static meaning untethered to
6 the record across every Social Security matter. See, e.g., Robert H. v. O’Malley, No.
7 2:23-cv-01855-SSC, 2024 WL 7128120, at *4 (C.D. Cal. Mar. 21, 2024) (noting the
8 Leach Court “was not extending this specialized definition from the physical exertion
9 realm to every use of the term ‘occasional’ in a social security context . . .”).
10 On the specific record of this case, both experts expressly used contrasting
11 terms, i.e. “very little to no public contact” versus “occasional contact w/coworkers.” AR
12 107, 117, 128, 137. Had both experts intended to find “occasional” exposure to both the
13 public and co-workers was within plaintiff’s limits, they likely would have said so. See
14 Otto v. Astrue, No. EDCV 11–1925–JEM, 2012 WL 3150827, at *5 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 2,
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16 The ALJ, who generally addressed the persuasiveness of state agency
17 consultants collectively, not individually, failed to explain either of these apparent
18 differences between the expert opinions. AR 28-29. This, despite finding both experts
19 “generally persuasive.” AR 28-29.
20 This was harmful error, because if the ALJ had properly evaluated the experts’
21 opinion evidence, the RFC may have included more limitations regarding ability to follow
22 detailed instructions, and more limitations concerning contact with the public. See Stacy
23 A. B. v. O’Malley, No. SACV 23-0920 AGR, 2024 WL 3221728, at *2 (finding the “ALJ’s
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1 decision gives no reason for any rejection,” and “declin[ing] to speculate as to whether
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3 III. CONCLUSION
4 For the reasons above, the Court REVERSES and REMANDS this matter for
5 further administrative proceedings. On remand, the ALJ shall reevaluate the medical
6 opinions of Dr. Reene E. and Dr. Lisa H.
7 Dated this 21st day of August, 2026.
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Theresa L. Fricke
United States Magistrate Judge
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3 To the extent plaintiff assumes this error would provide a factual basis for her generalized challenge to
23 SSR 24-3p, this error concerns the ALJ’s evaluation of the medical evidence and RFC, not the vocational
expert’s testimony or their sources used at the hearing itself. See SSR 24-3p (“[a]t the hearing level,
when the claimant is represented, we expect the representative to raise any relevant questions or
24 challenges about the VE’s testimony . . .”).
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